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I have to admit that, while one of England`s sons may have introduced the world to the delights of the sandwich, when it comes to variations on a theme, you Americans have us beat five ways to Sunday...

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My recollections tell me that a grinder was any sandwich --hot or cold, regardless of ingredients-- in a long "sumbarine"-style bun. There were Italian grinders, which of course had special kinds of...

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I was wrong to specify Boston as the home of the grinder. According to DARE, it is generally found throughout New England with the exception of Eastern Massachussetts. It is most definitely *not*...

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Sightings (er, tastings) by me in Seattle have always involved the toasted (and usually Italian) variety.Mmmmmmm...grinders for breakfast.

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Walking by the Eastlake Deli yesterday, I noticed "Hero Quarter Pounder" on the (outdoor) menu.Is that a monster burger or a hamburg sub, dya think?I didn't have time to stop and inquire. Or ingest.

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Dave, ya oughta put the Simpson quote in the entry on your list -- it's a great quote.

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Coincidentally, an apposite quote from a rerun I watched this evening. Homer and Bart are delivering a truckload of goods for a dead driver. Lisa reads out a postcard from Homer to Marge (picture of...

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Dave,Is is reasonable to conclude that, since most of the slang words used to describe elongated sandwiches(which resemble each other in many respects) seem to have been first seen in print in the...

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> googling on "muffuletta" and "sex" doesn't give a single hit of a sexual nature (44 hits total (over 2,000 for muffuletta alone), most of them referring to the sandwich as "better than...

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Another Boston neighborhood term that is slipping into oblivion is the term "spuckie" for a "sub" sandwich. It was well know in parts of Dorchester and South Boston probably from the 1940's until...

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"From spucadella, a type of Italian sandwich roll you can still buy at some of the bakeries in the North End and Somerville."From www.boston-online.com/wickedv3.htmlInteresting. Here we have another...

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Actually, they're a bit older, '30s mostly. "Cuban sandwich" even goes back to 1901. Barry Popik has been doing extensive research into early uses of culinary terms over the past couple of years. His...

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"Foot-long" might be worth a look-see. As I mentioned, in my own experience it refers only to extra-long hot dogs -- but I've heard tell that in some areas (maybe just in some cities?) it's a synonym...

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I'd like to back up CL in that "foot-long" in MA (and maybe NH and VT IIRC) always refered to a hotdog. Altho I suspect they were actually about 9 inches.

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Hmmm --Obviously made (& misnamed) by guys...

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Yum! A loaf of bread, a pound of meat and all the mustard you can eat!

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The term "hoagie" originated from the Italian shipyard workers on Hog Island, Philadelphia. Word is that the women used to put some leftover antipasto on a large roll and the men took it to work for...

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If Dave's article confirms the Hoggy Island origin, I'll be surprised.

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Wouldn't that be postpasto?

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Nope, the Hog Island hypothesis, while the most popular, is probably wrong. The dates just aren't right.The shipyard opened in 1917 and was pretty much deserted by 1920. It completely closed in 1925....

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It should be pointed out to anyone (Brits) unfamiliar with the term, that "hogies"/"hoagie"/"hoagy" is *NOT* pronounced as "hoggie". Close enuf to be the source, but quite distict.

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